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Is it possible to have a dual thread stud?
I went to bolt the starter onto the threaded stud and it apperas that the thread that the nut goes on to is metric. Is this likely given that the thread on the gearbox end of the stud is A/F?
Of course, the only nut i've lost during reassembley is the one that tightens the starter onto the stud :banghead:
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I thought they fitted with bolts? Someone might have stripped the thread and pushed a metric stud in there.
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Dave, ive sorted it now. The studs were A/F at one end and metric the other!! Fits fine though.
Have you got a pic of how your engine is chained down on the drivers side, Dave?
I wont even go into why i have less than total faith in the engine mount nut on that side of the car!
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Normally the stud would be UNC to fit the gearbox and UNF for the nut that holds the starter in. Carb studs are like this too, you can just use bolts in either case but the idea of studs is to reduce wear on the threads of the Aluminium component, I guess it makes no odds unless you are taking it to bits frequently.
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Thanks Blue. at least with studs you have something to hang the starter on. Which is nice.
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Yeah I have a photo or two of that chain somewhere...

I bolted it to the water pump housing where the power steering pump usually mounts. Then ran the chain under the sway bar bracket and up to the engine mount bolt. Even when tight the chain does not transmit vibration to the chassis. But it is not the best looking way to strap the engine mount.
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Thanks Dave, not pretty but functional. Last time I looked an adjustable engine damper didnt come cheap!
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it's been said by blue already, but i'll second it anyways, the end that goes into the casing is unc and the end the nut goes on is unf ! there, said it !!

since i'm full of useful advice today, i'll also mention that its always worth using at least one stud, and have the stud in the top hole, that way you can 'hang' the starter in place while you try and get the nut on the end, i often go for two studs to be honest, makes life easier than trying to bolt locate a bolt hole while practicing for the contortionists convention ! !
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I shall photo my Small Bloke chain for ya Miles, if I remember.
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erm, might be a stupid question but, why chain the engine down ?
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Cos the masive power i'm producing (I mean Dave n, Kev produce :wink: ) will cause the engine to flex and pull out of line!
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I need a lesson in recognising thread tyes. Whatever it is, the studs have now got nuts that fit :D
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mopars are pretty simple Miles,

everything, unless wrongly added later, is unf (fine thread) or unc (coarse thread), no mucking about here ! just get a good set of imperial wrenches (if you havent already) and away ya go, as you lose them you'll start to figure that 14mm replaces the 9/16 etc !!! just try not to use metric tat on solid nuts, you'll end up cursing ! godd to try and get yerself a nice 6 point socket set too, comes in handy with the amount of rusty bolts found on these things !


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I solid mounted my motor with solid replacement mounts from Mancini.

There really is very little difference between the two at any speed on the road. and you cant see the differnce from stock in the engine bay.

Vibration is very minimal, HONEST, and funnily gives the car a more stable feel going through bends quickly.
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Rebel wrote:erm, might be a stupid question but, why chain the engine down ?
Under full throttle the engine tries to twist clockwise (as seen from the drivers seat) and a powerful engine will rip a stock type engine mount in half. This is why you see photos of cars with just the drivers side wheel lifting off the road on launch.

I was using a mount that was rubber but with thick steel pins that locked solid as the engine moved over. It lasted a couple of years but the engine still snapped it eventially.

I would try a solid mount but have anways been worried about causing vibration up through the manual steering to the steering wheel. I can live without vibration white finger thank you.
But Allkiller is saying he does not get that problem so i might try it.
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