4-speed rebuild. Tips please!
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Mick, Terry, Hans- what bits do you have please and what do you want for 'em?
I've fully stripped the trans and checked everything for wear and damage.
The brass selector forks look a bit worn but I think they'll be fine. I may upgrade to steel forks one day...
The countershaft thrust washers definitely need replacing.
The synchros all have a bit of wear but 2nd looks quite bad, the teeth are pretty rounded which may be why 2nd was hard to shift into.
At the very least the stop ring needs replacing, ideally I should renew the whole synchro assembly.
And finally- the input bearing is loose in the casing. I'm assuming the bearing should a be press-fit? Neither the bearing or the case appear worn or damaged. I dunno whether it would be worth getting it machined out and sleeved?
Pics here-
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic ... &start=480
I've fully stripped the trans and checked everything for wear and damage.
The brass selector forks look a bit worn but I think they'll be fine. I may upgrade to steel forks one day...
The countershaft thrust washers definitely need replacing.
The synchros all have a bit of wear but 2nd looks quite bad, the teeth are pretty rounded which may be why 2nd was hard to shift into.
At the very least the stop ring needs replacing, ideally I should renew the whole synchro assembly.
And finally- the input bearing is loose in the casing. I'm assuming the bearing should a be press-fit? Neither the bearing or the case appear worn or damaged. I dunno whether it would be worth getting it machined out and sleeved?
Pics here-
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic ... &start=480
No-one will believe you...
Paul, just had a look what I've got in the garage.
308 bearings.
Thrust bearings.
Tail shaft seal.
Tail shaft bushing.
Set of C clips.
Input shaft seal.
Gear selector shaft seals.
All new for 18 spline box.
Also got used clustershaft rollers and used input shaft rollers that are like new in case you need them.
I don't have any stop rings or gaskets.
308 bearings.
Thrust bearings.
Tail shaft seal.
Tail shaft bushing.
Set of C clips.
Input shaft seal.
Gear selector shaft seals.
All new for 18 spline box.
Also got used clustershaft rollers and used input shaft rollers that are like new in case you need them.
I don't have any stop rings or gaskets.
1970 Road Runner, 505CI, 4 speed, GV overdrive, 3.91 gears.
11.98 @ 117mph on street tyres
11.98 @ 117mph on street tyres
- Six-pack Speedshop
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- Six-pack Speedshop
- Posts: 515
- Joined: Sat Oct 29, 05 1:43 pm
- Location: Wateringen, Netherlands
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No Mick, I'm running a GForce although next time I have to ever choose I'l not go GForce again. They %$#& me up using a standard input shaft while running dual discs so the splines were to short. Everything came from the same source but it was 'my' fault so they didn't even want to sent out a new correct shaft. Anyway, now we've fixed everything ourselfes with some extra modifications it shifts perfectly. Leaving at around 5800-6000rpm's
Check your mail Paul, I've sent you what I have left.
Check your mail Paul, I've sent you what I have left.
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Just found a couple of good pages on correct shifter adjustment...
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/howt ... our_mopar/
Also had this nice shot of shift plates drilled for short travel shifting
This from Hurst's site f.a.q.
What is the proper way to adjust my Hurst four speed shifter?
There is a 1/4 inch hole at the bottom of the Hurst mechanism that runs through all three levers. This is called the neutral alignment hole. To ensure proper adjustment, run the shifter from first into second and then back to neutral. Insert the neutral alignment pin (or a 1/4 inch drill bit) into the neutral alignment hole. If the 1-2 lever interferes with the smooth insertion of the alignment pin, remove the 1-2 linkage rod from the shifter and thread the adjuster button either in or out to eliminate the interference. Repeat this procedure with the 3-4 lever and reverse. To adjust the stop bolts, back the bolts out of the shifter frame until only a few threads remain. Push the stick firmly into third gear and hold. Screw in the stop bolt until contact is made. Release the stick and back the stop bolt out one turn and tighten the jamnut. Push the stick into fourth gear and repeat the procedure.
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/howt ... our_mopar/
Also had this nice shot of shift plates drilled for short travel shifting

This from Hurst's site f.a.q.
What is the proper way to adjust my Hurst four speed shifter?
There is a 1/4 inch hole at the bottom of the Hurst mechanism that runs through all three levers. This is called the neutral alignment hole. To ensure proper adjustment, run the shifter from first into second and then back to neutral. Insert the neutral alignment pin (or a 1/4 inch drill bit) into the neutral alignment hole. If the 1-2 lever interferes with the smooth insertion of the alignment pin, remove the 1-2 linkage rod from the shifter and thread the adjuster button either in or out to eliminate the interference. Repeat this procedure with the 3-4 lever and reverse. To adjust the stop bolts, back the bolts out of the shifter frame until only a few threads remain. Push the stick firmly into third gear and hold. Screw in the stop bolt until contact is made. Release the stick and back the stop bolt out one turn and tighten the jamnut. Push the stick into fourth gear and repeat the procedure.
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